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Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« on: August 30, 2012, 03:42:05 PM »
I'm hoping to get this pinned

Worrying, racing thoughts is the one symptom with anxiety that can bother people the most; they do not understand how they can have such thoughts that seem so scary and come with such impact. I have heard people say they fear the beginning of O.C.D or that they have awful thoughts about those closest to them, feel that they are ‘going mad’ and that they cannot control these disturbing thoughts, they seem to come without them even thinking them. Well these do have an explanation and these worrying, disturbing thoughts really are just an off-shoot of anxiety.

The reason you seem to have your attention on yourself all day and it feels like there are many thoughts running through your mind is twofold.

1. It is all the confusion about how you feel. Your mind spends all day looking for answers and trying to find a way out of this hell. Some people may even stay up all night, reflecting on the whole day and trying to figure everything out.

Eventually, thinking just becomes automatic, it becomes a habit. All day, every day, these thoughts seem to enter your head before you even think them. Look at it this way, when people meditate, they stop thinking for hours on end, until it becomes a habit and they can go all day without a worrying thought, which is why they feel so refreshed. Not you, your thoughts just carry on and on and when your mind is tired, like it is now, it grabs hold of every thought pulling them in and making them stick.

2. Why are some thoughts so bad? When you are in an anxious state, emotions seem to be tenfold, everything magnifies and a little problem becomes massive. Something that you could dismiss when you were healthy, can stick around all day.

Anxiety is really just adrenalin that needs an outlet and this includes manifesting itself into scary, irrational, strange thoughts, they are not important and should just be seen for what they are, anxiety just playing its tricks. Anxious thoughts are totally normal when suffering with anxiety. People ask me. 'Why do I have all these anxious, scary thoughts?, 'Because you have anxiety' is alway my answer. It's a simple response to a simple question.
These are just some of the scary thoughts on anxiety that I have come across. I call them the ‘what ifs’!

What if no one can cure me?

What if it’s not anxiety, but a different mental problem like Schizophrenia? [I owuld literally google Schizophrenia symptoms. I came on a symptom and my mind right after reading that symptom mimicked that symptom to a T and my anxiety went from a 2 to a 10. That is the power of the mind. Do not google symptoms EVER!]

What if my old self is lost forever

What if there is something else wrong with me, brain tumour etc? [Again you are thinking about the symptoms and feeding your anxiety which created more symptoms and it creates a cycle]

What if I lose control?

What if I can't breathe?

What if I have to live like this for the rest of my life?

What if this feeling never goes away?

What if it’s just me that feels like this?

What if I'll never be able to enjoy the things I used to?

What if I have an attack and pass out?

What if I cannot be the person I used to be?

What if I am ______________?

What if I become a_________________?

What if I farted and everyone smelled it?  :laugh3:

Blah blah blah blah

The first thing you need to do is point to your head. Cause that is where all these thoughts are coming from oviously. This is where anxiety comes from. It creates adrenaline and cortisol and releases it into the blood stream. This than causes very bizarre symptoms which include worrying about things that are irrational, disturbing, ect. It's just a natural response to years of built up anxiety/stress/tension. Its like your mind creates thoughts that are "worst case scenario" to deal with the anxiety/stress. Even if you don't feel anxious your mind is so used to these thoughts they replay them over and over and over.

I would really recommend therapy. Therapy really helps uncover the reason you are anxious/depressed, talking to someone and letting out your problems is great for the mind and body.

You may have said one or two of the above to yourself or recognize a fear you have. Well, I did too; it was always ‘yes, but what if?’ Well, all of these ‘what ifs?’ usually amount to nothing. They prove to be just an overactive mind playing its tricks on you. Thoughts seem to come uninvited and always seem to hold such force when we are anxious. Also, a lack of understanding of anxiety can bring these fears. Like me, you may have gone for a long time without anyone explaining to you why you feel like you do and you may not even have been told that it is anxiety. Can you see why these fears can build up in people? A lack of understanding of their condition, coupled with the habit of always thinking the worst compounds their fears. Add this to a tired mind that has lost a lot of its resilience, and you have a whole host of ‘what ifs?’.

Some people worry to the extent that they believe everything they feel is life threatening. A headache becomes a brain tumour, a stomach ache can become cancer and so on, and no matter how many times their doctor tells them there is nothing wrong with them, they are never quite convinced.

If this is you, then realize these thoughts are just figments of your imagination, mainly created by your anxious state. Everything becomes magnified when we are anxious. Let these thoughts go, don’t react to them and see them as just that, thoughts that carry no weight whatsoever, no matter how loud they shout.

When we try too hard to do ANYTHING, it seems to slip further from grasp. This includes to ridding oneself of unwanted thoughts. The more you "try" to push them away, the longer they linger and the stronger their impact. When we welcome and give room to unwanted thoughts, they lose their significance and quickly diminish. When you impose a false sense of importance upon a thought, it will often appear more serious than it deserves.

Time again is a great healer concerning this condition. I allowed them to flow in and flow out and I didn’t react. When I did this, I noticed the scary thoughts seem to lose their scary edge. Stop fighting them, just say: come if you wish, I no longer care, you are not important. Than people will begin to think "Well If I don't fear these thoughts "What if I convince myself?" What if I do become?" Those what if's return. Trust me, there is a ZERO percent chance you will ever become what you fear cause these thoughts cause you anxiety and anxiety fuels these thoughts, THATS IT. If you do convince yourself than shoot me a PM and say "YOU BASTARD" but I guarantee my inbox will remain empty.

Don’t ever tell yourself that you must not think these thoughts. Let all thoughts come; do not run away from any of them; see them for what they are, just thoughts, exaggerated because of the way you feel. They can do you no harm and they mean nothing. They won’t be around when you recover, so pay them no respect. The best way to alleviate these intrusive thoughts is to allow them their space by NOT trying to force them out.
It's like inviting your thoughts for a nice romantic dinner. I know, easier said than done, it takes time and practice but it will get better eventually, even with setbacks.

Also, don't google anything with your symptoms no matter what your experiencing because you will always get people telling you worst case scenario and you will become even more anxious, remember you are not alone, 20 million people in the US EXPERIANCE severe anxiety.



Why not try following a negative/scary thought through and ask yourself, what’s the worst thing that could happen? Then ask yourself if it is really going to happen? Is this thought rational in any way? If you do this, you may find an answer to a thought you have been so frightened off, so that next time these thoughts enter your head, deep down inside there will be a part of you that can see them for what they really are and let them go.

I often get asked ‘How I do I stop thinking a certain way’, my answer is DON’T try, if it’s not important whether your thoughts are scary or not, why try to stop them, give them their space, this is the way to lose them. Fighting thoughts and trying to rid yourself of them is the wrong approach and a battle you will lose for sure, again you are fighting something that is totally normal in the circumstances. Don't think you are going crazy or try and fight or change the way you think.

I bet once you read this your anxiety went down from a 10 to a 3 or 2. Why? Cause you know it's the truth. I wish you guys all the best and remember, anxiety does not kill you, it is a completely natural response, and you can overcome it.
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 05:03:36 PM »

I am so glad to be seeing more posts like this!

Focusing on the anxiety NOT on what our anxiety makes us think we have, it's good stuff  :action-smiley-065:
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I move forward with my anxiety because I WANT to.

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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 05:42:49 PM »
You're Welcome
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I agree, the hardest part is attributing your negative thoughts as anxiety, people seem to think every thought they think is absolute truth, it's not!!! If we think about unicorns does it prove that unicorns are real? No.
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 12:30:55 PM »
Thank you so much, ccaa6732. I was just having bad anxiety and thinking so so many of those "what ifs". Now, as you said, just reading this post made me feel so much better. I aim to give my thoughts space hopefully it gets easier as it goes. Thank you so much.
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 04:41:27 PM »
Anxiety is like a madman like Jack Bauer sitting in front of you sharpening his torture devices in front of you making you think you are about to be tortured. The presentation of potential torture messes with the mind more than the torture itself.
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“Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained.”

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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 05:01:43 PM »
Anxiety is like a madman like Jack Bauer sitting in front of you sharpening his torture devices in front of you making you think you are about to be tortured. The presentation of potential torture messes with the mind more than the torture itself.

As someone close to me says, "The What Ifs will get you every time and they usually never come to be!"
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 05:44:31 PM »
There is a lot of wisdom here.  I hope people read it and try to absorb it. 
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 08:23:10 PM »
I thought this was a fabulous post and am bringing it back up to the front page.
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Re: Help for those suffering intrusive/worrying thoughts
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 11:46:37 PM »
Love this one!!
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“I am an old man and I have known a great many troubles, but most of them never happened” -  Mark Twain

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