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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 11:13:30 AM »
Those might be two of the most normal looking hands that I have ever seen.  None of that is atrophy.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 07:07:34 PM »
Those might be two of the most normal looking hands that I have ever seen.  None of that is atrophy.

Realy?=) You have no idea how much this comment made my day, thank you for taking the time looking at my pictures=) I cant explain how reliefed I felt when I saw your post, I was sure youd say that there was some definite atrophy and that I realy should consult a neurologist. And therein lies the core of my problem, I have a realy messed up perception of how things realy are. In some ways Im almost schizofrenic, I always have a side of me telling my rational side that someething is wrong (never a little wrong, always critical illness)
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 07:59:24 PM »
Intrusive thoughts.

I have them bad. One of the defining features of OCD.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 08:43:04 PM »
Intrusive thoughts.

I have them bad. One of the defining features of OCD.

Indeed, and they can be sooo debilitating. Its hard for people that dont suffer from OCD to even begin to comprehend just how hard it is to fight that inner illogical voice. Its constantly there, and it constantly interfer with what could be a normal life.

I have to ask you and Shawn one (and anyone else reading this) thing though; Ive letten go of the hand atrophy thing now, and hopefully will for a long time forward. But, now I have sort of a focus on my feet instead. I noticed that when I lay down on a flat surface (like bed, couch etc) my feet tend to fall forwards a bit when I relax them. They dont stay straight up as normal feet do, and having them in that position feels wrong. So what Im wondering is whether or not that could be foot drop?

I have no problem walking on my heels, but I notice that the dorsiflexion of toes in particular seems to be a little less than usual. I am very stiff in my ankles, which could be the combination of obesity and poor shoes. But this has been bugging me quite a while though, and honestly scares me almost as much as my perceived hand atrophy.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 10:49:14 PM »
Your hands are PERFECT (well, a manicure wouldn't hurt) and the musculature / fat pads are EXACTLY as they should be.  II've spent countless hours examining healthy vs. Atrophied hands.  I paid close attention to every photo... Glad that Nom had u send pics in!  Be blessed  :action-smiley-065:
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 12:18:30 AM »
Those might be two of the most normal looking hands that I have ever seen.  None of that is atrophy.

Realy?=) You have no idea how much this comment made my day, thank you for taking the time looking at my pictures=) I cant explain how reliefed I felt when I saw your post, I was sure youd say that there was some definite atrophy and that I realy should consult a neurologist. And therein lies the core of my problem, I have a realy messed up perception of how things realy are. In some ways Im almost schizofrenic, I always have a side of me telling my rational side that someething is wrong (never a little wrong, always critical illness)
  Yes, really.  By the way you were acting I expected to see something concerning.  There is nothing there of concern.  Probably everyone here experiences what you are experiencing where we can't trust our own thoughts about our own symptoms.  Check out nomnom here...the guy has read so much he could probably write a textbook on a**.  He can break down other peoples symptoms and realize their fears are unfounded.  But, can he do that for himself?  I am the same way...I need people in my life to keep my head on straight when I am in a crisis because I can't trust my own opinions about me.  It's kind of like body dysmorphic disorders...you know the thin women/men who look in the mirror and see themselves as fat.  They can be 60 pounds and they think they look 300.  In the same way your mind is playing a trick on you.  You have to learn to outsmart it...to out think it.  To break it over your knee.  That takes tools...and you don't have them...yet.  Get some help brother.  Seriously, that is your problem not some rare neurological disorder.  Getting some therapy specifically from someone who specializes in health anxiety would be huge in your life.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 01:36:19 AM »
Just to throw in my thoughts about your photos.

Your hands look perfectly fine.

If you REALLY must, google: Split Hand Syndrome.

This is the type of atrophy that occurs most often in *** when involving the hands. Yours look absolutely nothing like that. Do not try to fool yourself into believing they do either. They do not.

Shawn is also correct that I'm neurotic as sh*t. And would benefit from the same therapy you would.
Because this is the worst disease, literally, ever. And I hate everything about this anxiety.

I've mentioned in another post that I believed this illness was the pinnacle of Health Anxiety. Precursery symptoms are vague and without the obvious atrophization of a limb or weakness it is very easy to recreate the symptoms. This is worse than MS. Worse than HIV. Worse than any form of cancer. This disease is terminal, untreatable (but the ALSExpress has said some encouraging thing about. . . I think it was Neuralstem trials?), and entire and complete relinquishment of all control and of life. It slinks around my thoughts, it haunts my dreams, it is horror ad infinitum.

You, though.
You stop it.
You're fine.

Oh and get a new GP.
Possibly atrophy my ass.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2014, 07:50:17 AM »
Okey, so Ive been doing a little better since my last freak-out. But, the last couple of days Ive been stuck in an endless spiral of thoughts of hopelessness. It all started with me noticing that I have close to no muscles between my left hand thumb and index finger, all there is is skin and a super small muscle that is soft and unable to flex. This in turn has resulted in a thumb that disclocates easilly, and I can make it "pop" sideways without much effort. I do however notice that there seems to be a muscle between my thumb and index finger when I put my index finger and thumb together, although not nearly as visible as it is on my right hand.

Could this be normal?

Ive also meassured the circumference ofmy hands, and the left hand is almost 2,8 centimeters smaller. That sounds like quite alot, right?=/

Also, the fingers on my left hand seems to want to stay a little bent all the time when relaxed. It takes quite a lot of force to fully straigthen them out (only left hand fingers though).
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2014, 09:34:08 AM »
Okey, so Ive been doing a little better since my last freak-out. But, the last couple of days Ive been stuck in an endless spiral of thoughts of hopelessness. It all started with me noticing that I have close to no muscles between my left hand thumb and index finger, all there is is skin and a super small muscle that is soft and unable to flex. This in turn has resulted in a thumb that disclocates easilly, and I can make it "pop" sideways without much effort. I do however notice that there seems to be a muscle between my thumb and index finger when I put my index finger and thumb together, although not nearly as visible as it is on my right hand.

Could this be normal?

Ive also meassured the circumference ofmy hands, and the left hand is almost 2,8 centimeters smaller. That sounds like quite alot, right?=/

Also, the fingers on my left hand seems to want to stay a little bent all the time when relaxed. It takes quite a lot of force to fully straigthen them out (only left hand fingers though).

Your hands are perfectly normal.
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Re: Doctors appointment gone bad=/
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2014, 10:24:50 AM »
But how can there be such a vast difference in characteristic between my two hands? Even though Im right hand dominant I still use my left hand, and now it just feels like skin and bone=/
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