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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2014, 11:52:45 AM »
Cuch, I am completely blown away by your website. Such a mass of detailed information. How did you do all that research?

You deserve many Phd degrees for it. Must return to learn more. Were you motivated because of the at times brutal conflicts in Ireland? You need to sit on a commission designed to avert future genocides, to preserve peace, to avert the likely disaster in the 21st Century.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2014, 12:50:41 PM »
Think when building such a site there has to be things that need to be written about. In other words it is a bit pointless saying I will make a site on Pins. Because there is only so much you can say about pins. So pick something that has lots worth writing about. History always interested me. Sad to say that much of what I wrote about will be the history of tomorrow. Many a film has been made on the topics I wrote about. Most of the Genocide in Africa have films made about them. Blood diamonds. Hotel Rwanda. Lord of War. Three I can think of off the top of my head. Last King of Scotland we could throw in there too. All African based and all about guns and Genocide. The Kid soldiers. 12-year-old's with AK-47's. I find it all interesting. But I don't just want to know of the fighting. I want to know of the history that lead us to the fighting. Then I like to write about it. Keeps me busy for a short while.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2014, 02:17:56 PM »
How in the world could you write about such things and still preserve some sanity? I read a few, not sure how many others I can endure. Do have a fairly direct connection to one of them, but everything was shrouded in secrecy. Remember being asked on a date to see The Pawnbroker, so shocked at the flashbacks. Yet I went on, deluded myself, pretended I was an all-American teenager, even brought 2 into this world. Insanity.

What can we say about human beings? Is there any hope as the evil asserts itself again and again and again? The Armenian genocide was kept in great secrecy. Pol Pot was an educated man. I haven't gotten to Africa. How the evils grow into monsters is as complicated as anything on this planet. I sure could not stick with it as you did. Maybe you need to publish your work in a book to warn the world about what is churning in the Muslim world. They have factions in Africa too.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2014, 02:37:49 PM »
I believe the world knows what is going on around them. It is far easier if it is not happening on your own doorstep. People have turned a blind eye to so much over the years. It is kind of twisted in a sense. What we don't want to see we simply ignore. It doesn't effect us. But when you look at the likes of Iraq and the original invasion. We know now it was a war based on lies. The whole invasion. There never were any weapons of mass destruction. History has shown us that certain Governments get involved if it suits them to do so. Iraq is a modern example. Africa has a history of Genocide. Civil wars and loads more. Certain governments did go in to help out. Why? Was it really to help those dying? No. Diamonds. Hence that film ' Blood Diamonds '. Loads of these poor Countries in Africa are rich with diamonds. Fighting breaks out. Turns into civil war. Genocide begins. Once there is something to be gained from entering a country you will have offers from various bigger powers in the world. I will always say they don't go into these countries without personal gain.

As for Muslims. We all saw what the Nazi's did under Hitler. There are so many Muslims in the world today. All it would take is a good leader and we might have Nazi Germany all over again. But elsewhere this time. If one group of people were to take over the Middle East could you imagine what that could lead to. They have the numbers. They almost had the man to lead them too. Bin Laden. Thank God he was taken out of it. He was starting to gain more and more power. His biggest mistake was 9/11 and backing it. Imagine that never happened. He simply went about growing in numbers and in power right across the Middle East. We are talking five or six Countries that could have been combined. Under one man. Thank God it never was allowed to happen. Hence 9/11 was a mistake on his part. Not a victory in my eyes. He should have waited. Gained more power. They simply done something too big too soon. That resulted in their own downfall. Just my own opinion.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2014, 03:49:42 PM »
What a great mind you have. So correct about that disastrous mistake of going into Iraq. Made me sick. Wrong. Is having endless, horrific consequences. Bush may have been the worst President yet. Not sure about the world realizing what is going on or is likely to go on.

And the self interest, as you say. That is what it is always about. And Pride. And Power. Conquest. And the bewitching, maniacal leader to con everyone to lose sight of reason, of decency, any morality. I get that Masada instinct going and want to know how to get out.

We need good leaders. How about you?
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2014, 04:40:24 PM »
More about asking who controls the leaders of the biggest countries? There are always those who will tell you they were groomed for the job by others. Others who play an active part in every decision they make once the do get into office. To get elected you need backing. As in money. The rich do have a say in who takes control of a Country. Is these same people who stand to gain from oil and diamonds from smaller countries that are invaded. People will always have their conspiracy theories. New World Order and people such as that. I might not go that far. But there are an elite group of wealthy people who like to play puppet master and pull the strings. Give them whatever name you want. They have the wealth. They can make you and they can break you. Every important country has them. People that have to be kept happy.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2014, 08:27:55 AM »
Sure, it takes all you say for someone to get up there. Ugh. Why would anyone want it? Beyond me. Technology is now another potent factor, some of it used as a weapon. Social media, have such a low view of it.

The best I can do is not turn anything on. Takes great willpower. Shut the world out and turn inward with meditation, my antidote to the dangerous happenings in the world.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2014, 09:40:08 AM »
Oddly enough, I don't watch TV at all. I prefer to read. I find I take more interest in something if I read about it. But my type of books would probably not interest most people. They are big and very deep. Sort of books most people would bored with after 100 pages. If they even make it that far.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2014, 11:52:11 AM »
Planes and airports are attended, but these creatures can easily get into the country with passports and language. Not a pleasant thought.

Books. The great hope, but can't civilize. Stalin liked literature and poetry sparing Boris Pasternak because he liked his writing. Good Lord. You had James Joyce and Samuel Beckett among others. How will lit. survive in the tech world? Could not resist TV. The consensus is that this threat must be met with a united world.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2014, 12:33:49 PM »
No point in having US airports and flights well marshalled if other countries don't do the same. Chances are if anything did ever happen again it would not be an American plane and it wouldn't take off from an American airport. It would come from outside America. Ireland is very strict when you are waiting to board a plane. They all but strip you down. Other countries should do the same.

As for books versus modern day technology? Some of us still prefer to hold paper in our hands. The feel of a new book. I have tried an E book reader and wasn't mad gone on it. Went straight back to good old fashioned books. There are some good groups on the net were members write real letters to each other. That is the whole idea of the group. To save letter writing. It is great to see such groups out there. 
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2014, 03:10:29 PM »
Of course books, see them, feel them, flip to the Table of Contents, Index, stick post-its in the back to highlight pages, ideas, etc. Like to fantasize that if people could find satisfactions in reading we'd have less killing.

It used to be mostly fiction for me, now it's a mix with several books going at the same time. Not big on history books. These days books on meditation rise to the top. I'd like to lock up those ISIS boys, sit them down, give them books, relieve their boredom, isolation, lack of direction, etc. and show them another way. Such dreaming.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2014, 04:33:53 PM »
I think we have all seen how these members of ISIS read. They take one holy book and see murder in it. If they can do that with a religious book, what would they see in a normal book? People like that only see what they wish to see in words. You have the same with the bible. These fanatics who speak out against gay people in such a horrible way, because they claim they read it in the bible. You could read the bible and see different things than these people see. Same book. Two different opinions on what is meant by the same words.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2014, 08:36:37 AM »
Thought I'd try and lighten them up, get away from the books that have caused conflict after conflict. Pipe dreams of a better world.
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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2014, 08:14:15 PM »
Perhaps some perspective may help. Yes, we live in a time where terrorism is more prevalent. That being said, imagine of you will what life was like just a few hundred years ago when Native American tribes raided each other and wiped out entire camps and raiding parties would invade another country and wipe out multitudes. Or just a couple hundred years ago when European countries invaded each other or even 100 years ago or less when countries were bombing the *!&*****#^ out of each other and genocide was taking place. Even now, in countries like Syria, people by the score are being bombed, shot, gassed and the like by their own government! Lets not even get into the Middle East! sheesh!

Most members live in countries with more security and safety measures in places than half of the rest of the world. On the extremely minute chance that some rouge terrorist happens to get through the cracks, even then the chances of it affecting you directly are slim to none. And if you're that unlucky?... Well then it's just your time.

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Re: Afraid of ISIS and terrorism
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2014, 05:46:20 AM »
Some would argue that a lot of this ISIS terrorist group are from all over the World. Just last night on the radio here in Ireland we have a Muslim extremist warning Irish soldiers not to peace keep in Syria. Oddly enough he had an Irish accent. The chap was brain washed in all he was saying. That is the biggest difference today. A lot of these sort of people are already living in our countries. I have no fear of them. They can mouth off all they want. Sad state of affairs when these people are born in your own country and are willing to take up arms against your own army. Some have converted over to the Muslim faith. So they would not look Muslim. Same skin colour as you or me. Could be living right next door to you. One major thing about the middle east is that none of the main countries surrounding Israel recognise it as a country. That is a nice little flash point to watch out for. Rockets are been fired at Israel from 3 or more countries at the moment. These countries are doing all they can to group together as one. They do have a new leader. It is all about how good he is at uniting people together to a common cause. If he manages it things could erupt. In the middle east that is. Then the UK and the US have said they would not sit by and watch Israel been attacked. Next few months should be interesting. ISIS are small. But they are doing all they can to expand to other countries. To grow their numbers. Case of watch this space.
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