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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 10:01:20 PM »
The amygdala and other portions of the brain in appropriately triggering the SNS is not a mind or subconscious thing entirely. It may eminate from a subconscious place but the effects are 100% physical. This is why people have such a difficult time reconciling why anxiety causes so many physical issues - they focus on it as if the innately primitive systems our body uses for protection aren't an issue.

Now to fix anxiety one "simply" has to extinguish the fear. Retraining the brain to learn things aren't dangerous is the only way to break the sympathetic nervous system connection and ultimately recover.
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 10:04:25 PM »
You think it's bad accepting physical symptoms, wait until you try explaining to others, without anxiety, the same concept.

I could literally kill my roommate right now. He believes it's all a ploy to be lazy


*i.e. not go out to bars/clubs/meet women (I'm in a relationship any way, he's just a f**khead).
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2014, 10:21:31 PM »
Good to see you back, sixpack.  Hoping all is well with you!
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 06:08:48 AM »
Good to see you back, sixpack.  Hoping all is well with you!

I am well.  How are you doing.   :happy0151:
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MOST anxiety occurs on a subconscious level.  JUST because you don't feel consciously anxious or had a day or two of calm doesn't mean your mind & body are relaxed.  It can take months of reduced anxiety before a body goes back to a more non-reactive state

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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 06:16:18 AM »
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Retraining the brain to learn things aren't dangerous is the only way to break the sympathetic nervous system connection and ultimately recover.

agree it is definitely integral.   part of which is not feeding the beasty with reactive behaviors
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MOST anxiety occurs on a subconscious level.  JUST because you don't feel consciously anxious or had a day or two of calm doesn't mean your mind & body are relaxed.  It can take months of reduced anxiety before a body goes back to a more non-reactive state

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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2014, 07:40:59 AM »
You think it's bad accepting physical symptoms, wait until you try explaining to others, without anxiety, the same concept.

I could literally kill my roommate right now. He believes it's all a ploy to be lazy




I know many people with anxiety disorders (especially those with anxiety that severely hampers life) often talk about how those without anxiety don't get it.  Many talk about wishing they would get it.   I remember feeling that way back in the day.  Certainly calling someone lazy is uncalled for. However having been on both sides I have a bit of a different view about the whole explaining anxiety to others.    I think it is an utter waste of time wishing/hoping to adequately explain the anxious over thinking disorder to one without the thinking disorder.  Only way a non-anxious person would truly 'get it' would be to have the disorder him/herself.  AND what good is that?  How does that help an anxious person?  I see it more like this now:

and I am sure my view is going to ruffle some feathers around here.  but here goes....
 
those with runaway anxiety are the ones who ultimately need to 'get' it.  We are the ones that our thinking  :dazed: .  Some of our actions make it worse--ie, self testing, googling, seeking endless reassurance via family friends, having 'peace of mind' medical testing....  Our thinking is being filtered through an anxious brain.  The more frustrating position to be in is the un-anxious family/friends seeing us flounder, be unhappy and scared and then be completely unable to make us understand.  Now THAT is frightening and sad and disheartening.  Let's face it--we are the ones with issue.  we are the ones who need to fix it.

I am in no way saying family and friends should be nasty to us.  I think they should be supportive in a way that doesn't just enable us.  We, absolutely,  don't need people to 'get it' so very well that they help keep us at the bottom of the pit.   

                                       
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2014, 07:53:03 AM »
I so agree and all we do is wear ourselves out mentally and physically by getting upset with them because they don't get and probably never will unless like you said they go through something similar but I have friends and family who say they have IT but still don't get it because not everyone has the same thing going on so it can be very agitating but really what can you do NOTHING after you have already told them a million times so what I do is just walk away or stay away from those people because all they do is make me feel worse and there is really no sense on going over and over my issues they can not fix me only I can help myself!

I will have to say living with people is a whole new ballgame you do have put up a wall with those people and learn to ignore and stop explaining and work on yourself. I am Lucky I don't have someone living in my home that nags me about my issues and I don't go and on to my Husband all the time because he is used to me and he does help talk me down but as he says Honey I don't totally understand but I am here for you and doing my best and he really has been for the most part.

Thanks for the post !
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2014, 12:01:10 PM »
I so agree and all we do is wear ourselves out mentally and physically by getting upset with them because they don't get and probably never will unless like you said they go through something similar but I have friends and family who say they have IT but still don't get it because not everyone has the same thing going on so it can be very agitating but really what can you do NOTHING after you have already told them a million times so what I do is just walk away or stay away from those people because all they do is make me feel worse and there is really no sense on going over and over my issues they can not fix me only I can help myself!

I will have to say living with people is a whole new ballgame you do have put up a wall with those people and learn to ignore and stop explaining and work on yourself. I am Lucky I don't have someone living in my home that nags me about my issues and I don't go and on to my Husband all the time because he is used to me and he does help talk me down but as he says Honey I don't totally understand but I am here for you and doing my best and he really has been for the most part.

Thanks for the post !

glad you have hubs that is supportive of you AND acknowledging your feelings without giving up his own   :happy0151:   
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2014, 01:00:53 PM »
Good to see you back, sixpack.  Hoping all is well with you!

I am well.  How are you doing.   :happy0151:


I am good - thanks for asking.  Handling the anxiety better than I have before!  (on my healing path!)
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Re: How does anxiety do this---a sixpack ramble
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2014, 01:05:52 PM »
Good to see you back, sixpack.  Hoping all is well with you!

I am well.  How are you doing.   :happy0151:


I am good - thanks for asking.  Handling the anxiety better than I have before!  (on my healing path!)


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