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Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« on: June 16, 2014, 09:23:54 AM »
Hello guys.

Im a 24 (soon 25) year old swedish guy who have been worried that i will develop psychosis och schizophrenia for about 8 years after a panicattack.

It all started when i came home from a vacation when i was 17 years old, it was a lot of partying and alcohol for seven days, and when i came home i was going to bed and i started to sweat and my heart started to race, when i closed my eyes all kind of different scary images poped up in my head and i didnt know what to do, so i whent upp and it felt like i was going mad, after a while i finally came to sleep and the next day i was fine, a week went by and i went out drinking with my friends and then the brain fog or derealization hit me, i felt wierd and had like a brain fog for about 6 months. Whas this a panic attack i had?

And that was the time i started too google and found psychosis and my health anxiety kicked in big time!
I started to worry and talked to many doctors and they all said it was anxiety, then i found schizophrenia and i have been worried that i would get it for a couple of years. Ive seen many doctors and specialists but they all tell me its anxiety but i still searching for schizophrenia on the internet and its feel like im never gonna let this go. I am afraid that i will start hearing voices or get delusions and get locked up for the rest of my life.

When i was a kid i washed my hands all the time because i was afraid of germs, then i worried that i would get homosexual and when all this went away i started to worry that i was going mad and here i am today.

I tried cbt and it worked pretty well, i went abroad last summer and i have had ups and downs but for the most i have feelt good the last 2 years but now im convinced that im going to get schizophrenia again.

My symptoms is  that i feelt slow in my head the last 2 weeks, dizzy and kinda spaced out. I also get a wierd thing with my vision a couple of times a year, its not happening so often (like 2-3 times a year) but my vision zooms out when im talking with people like micropsia,  they seem far away and small. Google if you wanna know what i mean.
i read that micropsia is pretty common in shizophrenia and thats whats started my worry again this time, but i have had this all my life but its more rare nowdays.

Also when i get anxiety and feel this brain fog och derealization i cant concentrate when im playing video games, i feel slow and my reaction time is pretty bad. Im also pretty worried that i will stuck in this brain fog state and never gonna enjoy my life.

Am i getting schizophrenia or is this my health anxiety/ocd? We have no schizophrenia in my family that i know of, the only thing is my uncle who is kind of a compulsive liar, but he have a wife and everything so i dont think he's schizophrenic.

I sometimes also get some weird muscle twitching, but i think thats anxiety.

Sorry if i misspelled something.
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 04:01:30 AM »
Nobody?
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2014, 08:08:52 AM »
It seems none of us is any expert in schizophrenia which I would leave to a professional to diagnose and certainly not "doc" Google.

You say you tried CBT and it worked pretty well. CBT can be effective but requires regular attention. Sometimes meds help. If we have a nature/nurture proclivity to psych issues we can't take anything for granted. We must help our brain, our outlook with steady commitment and attention. In addition to CBT I am now trying to include ACT, Acceptance, Commitment Therapy. Hope this helps some.
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2014, 08:18:49 AM »
1st i would like to start saying you donít have schitz... this is a very common thought pattern for people with anxiety due to the way it makes you feel.

people of have schitz or is a psychotic episode are not thinking rationally! if you can have the thought but know its just anxiety then your are not losing your mind.. people in a psychotic state are not aware of it and believe 100% what is in there head is real and no matter what any1 tells them they only believe there thoughts as real..

if you can rationalise your thoughts then you are completely sane and have just feel back in to the anxiety trap and sounds like you are having a set back with the anxiety and this is completely normal especially after such a long time feeling good

dont question the thoughts dont question the feelings accept them as they are just feelings and thoughts that can do you no harm

dont try and rid you self of them as this will only make you feel worse as you will be constantly wanting to check and question why has it not gone

just accept the feelings with the understanding that your are doing this not to change how you feel but to accept that you have anxiety and from time to time you may not be 100%

google anxiety no more and have a good read over all the information on the web page..

remember acceptance is KEY as i was the same as i just wanted rid of the feelings thoughts and when started accepting i was questioning why it didnt make me feel better, and the answer was i was using it to feel better rather than just accepting i had anxiety and living my life and not letting my anxiety stopping me do anything. this method takes a lot of time and patience and you have to know that know matter how loud the thoughts kick and scream it is all false and you need not pay it the  attention it craves..

also if you havent already and would suggest the book by paul david called at last a life.. best book i have read, i have also read imp of the mind
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2014, 08:27:30 AM »
I would like to point out that I am also not a DR in anyway and what I have said above is purely based on my own experience of over coming my anxietyÖ

What is said about schitz and psychotic episodesÖ I was advised the above by my psychologist as I too was scared I was schitz or going psychotic and at that point google did nothing but make me worse

Google is not a DR!!! please see your own dr for more information and help if you feel it will help
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2014, 09:58:02 AM »
Thanks for your answers, but i have seen over 10 doctors and 2 specialist doctors and they all say its anxiety but i just cant stop worry, i think they missed something or that i developed a new "symptom" that i forgot to tell them. Im getting pretty tired of this...
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 10:28:47 AM »
If they all say it is anxiety, why not go with that and get it treated. Perhaps meds, perhaps revive your attention to CBT (takes work and effort), exercise and meditation, big for me.

Slowly, patiently you will gain the upper hand, not anxiety. :yes:
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 11:13:47 AM »
Yes im thinking about trying ssri.
The tging with macropsia then, what ive read on google its common in schizophrenia but ive also read that people experience this without schizophrenia. I dont know if it is micropsia but the description is pretty accurate but i dont have the other symptoms in alice in wonderland syndrome. And another thing im thinking about is that schizophrenia often shows earlier than my age, even the early phase.
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 12:48:18 PM »
thatís is what anxiety does makes your question everything,

i used to be the same i would leave the dr's and think i forgot to tell them this or that

i would constantly worry looking for answers on how to feel better.. this is what makes you feel worse

you have to carry on with the thoughts there... i was the same as you.. i asked my psychologist if i was psychotic or shitz and she said to me what if i told you that you are? would that make you feel any different or better.. she said the fact of the matter is you have ocd and you are overthinking and questioning everything due to the way you feel and the thoughts that come into your mind..

i learned to accept the thoughts as just being a product of my anxiety and that i in fact was completely sane as i wouldnít question the thought i would just believe the thought

so i then decided enough was enough and accepted that i know i have anxiety i know it throws all sorts of thoughts in to my head.. i know the way it make me feel but i also know that it cant hurt me, so i gave up i let the thoughts come and go with out fight or questioning
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2014, 01:22:16 PM »
But did you have derealization? Or feelt kinda off in your head, it feels like somethings wrong but i dont know what, and i feel a little dizzy.
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2014, 02:11:47 PM »
yes i did.. i used to look at things and name them to prove to myself i havenít lost the plot

i used to think life was like the matrix and question what if this isnt real what if this is a dream

all just a product of my imagination, i learned to ignore them as they meant nothing, yes i felt horrible and strange but it could never hurt me.
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2014, 02:16:32 PM »
i found the following online

"derealization occurs in the context of constant worrying or 'intrusive thoughts' that one finds hard to switch off. In such cases it can build unnoticed along with the underlying anxiety attached to these disturbing thoughts, and be recognized only in the aftermath of a realization of crisis, often a panic attack, subsequently seeming difficult or impossible to ignore. This type of anxiety can be crippling to the affected and may lead to avoidant behavior. Those who experience this phenomenon may feel concern over the cause of their derealization. It is often difficult to accept that such a disturbing symptom is simply a result of anxiety, and the individual may often think that the cause must be something more serious. This can, in turn, cause more anxiety and worsen the derealization. Derealization also affects the learning process. Because the individual almost sees the events as if in 3rd person, they cannot properly process information"

in other words its your minds way of protecting you when in fact all it does is makes your more worried as your feel abnormal.. leave it be it will pass in its own time.. trust me..

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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2014, 02:25:28 PM »
Thanks for your answer, ive read that text before and i know it will pass but im still afraid that this is the first stage of schizophrenia.
The only symptoms i have is:
Little dizzy
The feeling that something will happen
I feel weird, put i dont know how to explain it...

I know its far away from beeing schizophrenia but ive feelt really good over a year and now suddenly this fear pops up again, it can be that it is 10 years since my mother died in cancer but i dont know. It feels like a big setback because ive feelt so good and i have been abroad and doing things i like and now i feel like all this is gonna start over....

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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 03:04:43 PM »
yea that is typical of a set back. google anxiety no more and got to the set back section..

its basicly a thought or feeling that bring it all back and makes you feel like your back to sqaure one, it is typical of anxiety and the same thing happend to me last sept..

i had thoughts that i was being poisned and people where after me. anxiety grips on to anything that makes you scared

dont pay it any attention no matter how loud it scream at you.

there is also a ***** page for anxiety no more and he had put loads of blogs on.. i always post on it myself to help others over come this condistion.

i will put a link in for the page that explains set backs.. give it a read,,

i hope the MODS allow it lol

http://www.anxietynomore.co.uk/anxiety_setbacks.html
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Re: Afraid that im developing schizophrenia! Please help
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 04:21:14 PM »
That link was pretty good. I thougt i was going to start all these from the beginning but maybe it is just a setback, i sure hope so! Maybe this is only anxiety and not schizophrenia...
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