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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2014, 06:50:21 PM »
Was this fasting bloodwork?
You can put liver cancer out of your mind right now.  I knew someone who's cancer spread to their liver and they were REALLY sick (very weak, VERY bad) so put that out of your mind right now.

Yeah, I couldn't eat anything and I could only drink water. I'll try my best but it gets really difficult sometimes. I try to get it out of my head and it just keeps pestering me, but that's my head for you. I need to keep fighting it and to convince myself instead of looking at websites especially since I have 0 symptoms and am not a smoker/drinker
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2014, 02:51:34 AM »
I will keep saying this over and over and that is, I am a 55 year old male and a professional Hypochondriac. I go through all of these threads and it just reminds me of all of the worrying that took my life away. My wife and my mother always told me, that I was living a Death, not a life.

First of all, as everyone is saying, get rid of your Doctor.  ALWAYS remember that it is your body, your life.  So you watch out and take care of yourself and if that means switching Doctors, than do it.  Your lucky that you are at a young age as many people who are much older, will feel that they will make their Doctors feel bad so they won't ever change.

You said your Bilirubin was 17.9? You are probably talking about Total Bilirubin.  In many Labs, the high normal is 17.

First of all, if there was a problem with your Liver, that count would be HIGHLY ELEVATED.  But as Hypochondriacs, if it is 1 or 2 points above normal, we think, oh, oh,  it's high so I have such and such disease. That's not what they mean when they say something is elevated.  It means really, really elevated. That goes for most, but not all tests done in labs.

Also, many numbers are normal and a person can still have something. So don't start looking up lab values and making judgement calls for yourself.  You are not a Doctor and that is very important to know.  You and the rest of us, don't know how significant these values are.  Time in and out, I was like you, and My Doctors would always tell me "That's not what it means." They have all the experience, we don't right?  Their is an expression that says "A little learning is a dangerous thing."

If you think the primary site of your cancer is you intestine, and it has already metastasized to your liver, and you are 21, I would say that is very, very unusual.  Very Atypical. There is another expression in Medical school and it goes like this.  "If you hear hoof beats, think horses, NOT Zebras.  Meaning, if a patient has symptoms or signs, don't think it's a rare disease or a disease that is very unusual for a patients age.  You first think of the most common problem, in your case, for 21 year olds.   That is the age I started to get hemorrhoids, (Which can be external, you can feel them, or internal, where you really shouldn't be poking around). And since you stated you are overweight, Dollars to doughnuts, I bet that's what your bleeding is from.  Do you strain when you try to have a B.M.?  That can definitely cause bleeding. I also feel you may have had     an intestinal infection that can cause all of the things you mentioned.

But sadly for Hypochondriacs, everything I just said won't make a difference.  You will either still be convinced that you have cancer, or you will due more research and find another serious disease.

I don't know if you have been to a Psychiatrist but if you haven't, and this thinking continues for you, please see a Psychiatrist because unfortunately, Hypochondria ONLY responds to medication. At least that is what I have read in the literature.  It's a bummer to have to take something but please don't ruin these very important years of your life like I did and see someone as soon as you can.

I'm sorry if I sound harsh. Please stop looking things up.  You will ALWAYS find that you have something serious. The only thing that I can say is try to lose some weight. Now is a good time to attack it before it gets out of hand.

Everything should turn out well for you, and all of your problems should be resolved. 

Wishing you a good, long, healthy life. 
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2014, 06:31:13 AM »
You are VERY young, I mean it takes years and years (20 or 30) of some kind of bodily abuse to raise those numbers.  I'm wondering if the lab simply didn't make a mistake!
OR the other possibility is due to being overweight.   Fatty liver is common in overweight people - it's NOT serious and doesn't lead to any damage or anything like that (but it WILL raise your number) - but then again, you'd be fatigued, you'd have jaundice,  your urine would be dark... etc.   So with NO symptoms I'd kinda go with the lab error!  Seriously, have the tests done again.
Once again?  NOT liver cancer!  THAT would absolutely have even MORE symptoms than fatty liver and you don't even have symptoms of THAT.
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2014, 10:41:46 PM »
Sorry for the bump.

Yeah, I've been eating junk food almost all my life so I just wonder if my symptoms are too late to fix but I guess since I'm still waking up each morning with almost no pain other than when i jab myself deep ( :spineyes: ) then I feel something. I have heard the zebra horses term too and I'm also concerned about colon cancer, not just the liver. Recently someone I went to high school with died of it and now I'm feeling the symptoms except the stool. I was straining myself earlier, but now I'm feeling a lot better now that I'm not forcing myself to go. When I was forcing myself, I had pencil like stools and small balls of stool that were pale, but now that I'm not straining myself the stool has the normal brownish with some black color and wiping doesn't show blood or anything so I don't even understand what's going on. When I did strain myself, I did bleed but it was on the toilet paper, not on the stool from what it seems. I've also had large strings of red (food?) in it, and all sorts of stuff so who knows what's even going on inside my stomach.

I feel like when people say I'm too young, I think about the girl who died and if she died from CC then what about me? What makes me not susceptible to it if she had it?
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2014, 05:55:30 AM »
Well then think of it this way - the odds of someone so young having CC is extremely rare...  YOU being so young the odds of you getting it on the heals of someone else so young is astronomically rare, and to take it even FURTHER than that, you being so young, getting it on the heals of someone else so young from the SAME SCHOOL, the odds don't even seem possible.
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2014, 03:01:59 PM »
Just as an update guys: I recently got the laboratory to release the results of my stool test to the clinic and everything was negative! I feel great and I know I'm fine so I probably don't have colon cancer which is nice. The only thing I should be worried about is my liver which I'm exercising and eating healthy for.

Thanks everybody for helping me out. You guys are all so kind and helpful. I need to learn to believe in others a little more than my own head. I'm going to try to enjoy my summer vacation now :laugh3:
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Re: High ALT, AST, and Bilirubin--REALLY SCARED please help [TMI]
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2014, 03:14:04 PM »
Glad things are looking up!

I was going to post my thoughts on your liver.  I have PBC (Primary Biliary Cirrhosis).  Its an autoimmune liver disease that causes the destruction of the small bile ducts in the liver.  You have high ALP, but usually not elevated ALT and AST until you have some damage. 
The disease I have will not reverse itself due to the way the immune system continues to attack the liver.  Luckly I was diagnosed in stage 2, which means I may have a good chance at a normal life. 

However, if you have fatty liver disease, which I think you must have, it will heal itself.  You are doing the right things.  Once you get into cirrhosis you can't be helped, but I think you are probably fairly early on.

Glad you are feeling better.  Love your liver.  It controls so much of our health
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