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Offline Lara71

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5am anxiety call
« on: March 06, 2014, 05:06:16 AM »
My anxiety seems to hit hard at 5am. I take my medication in the evening hoping to avoid this but so far nothing.

Does anyone have any recommendations to sleep through the night?
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 05:17:07 AM »
You mean you've been up all the way until 5am??
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 05:34:32 AM »
I have advanced sleep phase disorder and I use light therapy and the light therapy is helping my sleep, which in turn is helping me in all aspects of life. ASPD is when your core body temp and melatonin cycles like 3 hours earlier than the rest of the world, therefore, you have no control over it unless you retrain it. So, for me, without the light, I want to go to bed at 5-6 pm and then wake up at 3-4 am in the morning. I get enough sleep and i get good sleep, but I am just on a different cycle than everyone else. I can't function without my light! I have to sit in front of it for 20 minutes every day from 5:30 to 5:50. I feel more calm throughout the day. Body aches and pains aren't as bad, either... I have been using the light i guess about 7 weeks now. There were 4 days I didn't use it and I went back to my old cycle so I have to use it. The light I have is around $300 but maybe insurance would cover it, and it has 10,000 lux (blue and white light). I keep a sleep log and you can really see the pattern. But you should make an appt with a sleep specialist... they can help you. Sleep controls everything so if you are waking with anxiety something is off and you can retrain the neurotransmitters in your brain with light therapy.
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 05:41:09 AM »
I'm sorry to hear what you're going through, but I'm not going to lie, I'm glad i asked... that is a fascinating disorder to learn about, I have never heard of such a thing. I can't imagine going through that at all... It's like living in a world of jet lag. I hope you get to feeling rested and the light works well for you.

Best wishes. and thank you.
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 05:41:23 AM »
^ i forgot to add before using the light many mornings i would wake with this "physical" anxiety type feeling...like as soon as i opend my eyes i would feel like a jolt, kind of like a restless arms feeling, like i would have to jump up out of bed and immediately start moving and that was a really uncomfortable feeling (kind of like how restless legs feels (which i only ever had years ago when i was pregnant) but it was in my arms. That feeling kind of scared me, made me feel WAY TOO AWARE of everything (guess too much cortisol?)  like a major fight/flight response so then i would get anxious because every morning would be like that... but since using the light I have not had that feeling at all. I think by retraining when my brain produces melatonin it must be helping other hormones, too, like cortisol and stuff... you should seriously get a light, but see a sleep specialist first. YOu have to use the light at the right time for you or it will further mess you up.
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 05:51:36 AM »
Hi Potatoes, thanks! THe sleep specialist said it is really uncommon in someone of my age (35), like 1% of the population, but i am used to having weird unexplained things happen to me that are rare things and science is just not fully there yet. It usually only happens to the elderly, because as the brain deteriorates in the pineal gland/hypothalamus with the normal aging process... then this disorder occurs because the part of the brain that works the melatonin just doens't function as good anymore. For me, I had an MRI of my brain and it is totally normal (other than a minor vein defect in my left temporal lobe but that's like a congenital thing which poses no harm to me). I think it may be a little more common but I don't think people actually seek out help because they can work a 9-5 job, people only report it when it starts to affect their social life and going out at night, which is why I reported it... I was sick of not being able to help my children with homework or do activities after work and i was sick of not being able to stay up to go out on weekend nights with friends. I am still not totally there yet... I still get sleepy, but it's getting better and better. Like I don't feel scared to drive anymore (when i get sleepy there is no control and i just nod off right in the middle of talking or sitting and start drooling, once i drove up on the curb and since then i know i can't drive at night, but with the light, i can stay awake enough at night and each night I am getting better and better and now i can drive at night!)
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Re: 5am anxiety call
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 02:21:33 AM »
^ i forgot to add before using the light many mornings i would wake with this "physical" anxiety type feeling...like as soon as i opend my eyes i would feel like a jolt, kind of like a restless arms feeling, like i would have to jump up out of bed and immediately start moving and that was a really uncomfortable feeling

Have you considered that blood sugar might be a factor on this particular one? I ask because during a couple periods in life when I had OUTRAGEOUS all day panic (bad breakups), I would wake up every morning with immediate panic attacks. It turned out to be related to the fact that I was severely under eating, and thus my blood sugar was way down after a night's rest. I treated that by keeping a small bowl of fresh fruit by the bed, and popping grapes in my mouth the instant I woke up.

Might not be related, but it helped me a LOT.
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