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Offline i960

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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 02:57:25 PM »
It's your choice. Surely you'd want to not have a psychological and physiological dependence rather than fixing the deeper issues.
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 04:28:32 PM »
I don't have deep issues ... I never was anxious or depressed as a child it came from nothing on a normal day idk what issues I would look for I think I'm just stuck in a bad rut I went to one psychologist and he told me  that
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 04:35:43 PM »
Quite a few people so have anxiety that happened out of the blue - including myself. And those type of people are prime candidates for NOT solving it with medication because it happened acutely. Have you gone to a GP and done basic testing to validate that you're not suffering from an unknown condition like hyperthyroidism?
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 04:36:46 PM »
It's your choice. Surely you'd want to not have a psychological and physiological dependence rather than fixing the deeper issues.

Why are you being critical of his plan for his own health? He already discussed his interest in doing CBT.  There's enough antagonism about the use of psychiatric medication without having to deal with it on this forum. It doesn't sound like this is something he's jumping into after one bad week.

Therapy can be a very beneficial tool, but is not the be-all end-all treatment for every person suffering from anxiety and depression. Qualified therapists are not accessible for everyone. The therapist I tried was not a good fit for me at all.  Also: I was attempting so many anxiety coping tools: exercise, meditation, CBT strategies....and I was so anxious, so overwhelmed I could not manage these things successfully. I've been on Lexapro for two months, and these techniques are falling into place. Nearly every day I'm taking some time for self-examination to see where I'm at with my anxiety and with my life in general, where I'm at and where I wanted to be. Previous to the medication, I was just trying to hold my head above water and get through the day.


Surely that diabetic shouldn't be physiologically dependent on their insulin....
Surely that asthma patient shouldn't be dependent on that inhaler just to breathe!  ::)
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2014, 04:37:51 PM »
Quite a few people so have anxiety that happened out of the blue - including myself. And those type of people are prime candidates for NOT solving it with medication because it happened acutely. Have you gone to a GP and done basic testing to validate that you're not suffering from an unknown condition like hyperthyroidism?

Now THIS comment I can support.
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 06:20:09 PM »
Quite a few people so have anxiety that happened out of the blue - including myself. And those type of people are prime candidates for NOT solving it with medication because it happened acutely.

Why are you dissing someone to not take medication on a Medication forum?  Yes, you're entitled to not take medication, and you're also entitled to your own negative opinions about medication, but in this forum, you can expect others to want to be on medication, due to its nature.  It's titled the *Medication* forum.

It's almost as if this is a Christianity forum, and regardless of what religious beliefs you hold, you tell the forum members to not believe in Christianity.   WTF?  Just go to another forum where others don't believe in Christianity, if these are the beliefs you prefer, and you'll feel more comfortable there, instead of having other people adopt your views, just to make you feel comfortable.
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 07:20:12 PM »
It's your choice. Surely you'd want to not have a psychological and physiological dependence rather than fixing the deeper issues.

Do you have any evidence that "fixing" the deeper issues will cure the problem because I don't know of any? The best psychotherapies for anxiety and depression, the cognitive and/or behavioural (CBT, REBT, etc), and/or mindfulness therapies do not generally delve into the "deeper issues" but concentrate on the patients reactions to anxiety and depression and finding ways of being able to live with them.

Freudian therapy which does go into the "deeper issues" is horse manure. Freud himself never cured a single patient, indeed when noted psychologist Hans Eysenck examined all of Freud's surviving patients in the late 50s/early 60s he found they were all, repeat all, worse off for the experience. Even Freud acknowledged the ineffectiveness of his therapy towards the end. He ends a chapter about its problems in his "An Outline of Psycho-Analysis" first published in 1949 with:

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"Those who have been following our discussion only out of therapeutic interest will perhaps be turned away in contempt of this admission. But here we are concerned with therapy only in so far as it works by psychological means; and for the time being we have no other. The future may teach us to exercise a direct influence, by means of particular chemical substances, on the amounts of energy and their distribution in the mental apparatus. It may be that there are still other still undreamt-of possibilities of therapy. But for the moment we have nothing better at our disposal," (p62, Standard Edition, WW Norton & Company, NY, 1989) - My emphasis

Freud was right on both counts, we do now have reasonably effective "chemical means" for treating mental disorders, and there are much better therapies. Therapies which don't deal with the past, but the here and now. When they can be affordably accessed then they should be considered the preferred first line treatment, but cost is a limitation for many, as can be access to trained therapists. However, they are definitely not one shot cures, and, as with antidepressants, they don't help everyone. In both cases only about 65-70% get worthwhile results. Unfortunately, it is mostly the same 65-70%.

Ian
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NOTE: I'm not a doctor, and particularly not yours, so there may be factors I'm unaware of. Therefore all advice is of a general nature and you should consult your doctor before following any of it, especially before changing med doses.

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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 11:43:54 PM »
Yes , I've gotten every single blood test known to man from head to toe ... I go for general bloodwork Thursday I'm gonna ask him to run it again just in case
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2014, 11:45:52 PM »
And my other is a nutritionist so I eat healthy (gluten free), take my fish oil everyday and the whole 9 yards
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Re: Just gonna do it
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 10:17:16 AM »
Yes I have ohsyically gotten every blood test done from thyroid to vitamins and minerals to adrenal function to Candida albicans etc etc.... There's liter nothing wrong with me , my mom a nutritionist also and I eat a healthy gluten free diet that's why I don't get it
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