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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #300 on: January 03, 2014, 08:13:58 AM »
I actually agree with you - to a point, I don't particularly agree that there is a God as such, sat on his cloud, etc. - but surely we shouldn't let a word bind us in any way either.

The point for me was more about the miracles all around us that we neglect to appreciate and upon reading that quote it reminded me of that so very well. I simply cut and pasted the quotation in it's entirety and didn't get stuck on the "G" word.

Perhaps this works better for you:

If you want proof that there is wonder in the world - don't ask “Show me a miracle” in order for it to reveal itself - instead ask yourself “What here is not here by miracle” and the miracles will show themselves. That tree, that dog, that child, me, you, this planet - how did it get here, what did it take to get it here, who/what put it here, what keeps it here? - investigate that and you will see your miracle - Author Unknown   

But has the quote now been corrupted to suit our prejudices?
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #301 on: January 03, 2014, 08:39:44 AM »
Unfortunately even the word "miracle" sets me off. In truth, I come from such a dark place. In me lives a slice of history that no-one can ever comprehend. Never wanted to be born. The book I referred to reads under Be Who You Are, "You won the lottery, you were born. You won the lottery, you are you." Did the innocent suffering children in Sudan, in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, etc. win the lottery?

But, doogle, there is great beauty in the world. I see the gorgeous blue sky, white clouds, feel the sun and air, exult in the trees, bushes, birds, etc. and I marvel. How about sitting under a tree (or imagining it) and reaching inside with meditation? Yes, it will be under a tree today with Buddha besides me. I may even cry, as I do sometimes, and that's OK.

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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #302 on: January 03, 2014, 08:52:51 AM »
“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” –Viktor Frankl

Viktor Frankl certainly didn't win the lottery either, but you are right we are drifting away from what I hope this thread is about and that is that Mindfulness and Mediation can help anxiety sufferers get some much needed relief.

Long live the thread and not our personal views on miracles, religion, etc., etc.

Hope it helped someone  :action-smiley-065:

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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #303 on: January 04, 2014, 08:28:28 AM »
Yes, Victor Frankl. Goes through the worst, spirit survives and he writes Man's Search for Meaning. Some people search for it in meditation and that's fine too.

I'm content if I can find peace and calm and hope and confidence and strength. And, yes, your goodwill always helps.
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #304 on: January 05, 2014, 08:22:37 AM »
Too bad I'm not a research scientist because in my experience meditation can bring phenomenal results not just for anxiety, but for so much more. So here is more of Buddha in Blue Jeans.

"The object of your love doesn't matter. You are love."
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #305 on: January 05, 2014, 11:24:35 AM »
I practice meditation everyday and I can say it helps me. I don't know. You have to keep to it and not get discourage if you can't keep concentrated for a long time. At first i got frustrated because I did not liked staying in place for a long period of time but after a while I got used to it and I started getting benefits from it.
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #306 on: January 05, 2014, 11:46:40 AM »
Well you've mentioned the book a few times now - so i thought I'd check it out. Went to Amazon and guess what if you have a kindle (which I have) it's FREE to download.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buddha-Blue-Jeans-Extremely-Sitting-ebook/dp/B005ZZ2T2C/ref=sr_1_1_bnp_1_kin?ie=UTF8&qid=1388940100&sr=8-1&keywords=buddha+in+blue+jeans

Great - I've now got it, and will be checking it out soon  :action-smiley-065: 
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #307 on: January 05, 2014, 12:40:04 PM »
Yes, that's it. How nice. It should be free because it is hardly a "book" in the conventional sense. But I don't mind paying for it. It is wonderful and I need the pages in my hand. Hope you enjoy it. Maybe find some quotes to share.
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #308 on: January 06, 2014, 04:20:48 PM »
I actually agree with you - to a point, I don't particularly agree that there is a God as such, sat on his cloud, etc. - but surely we shouldn't let a word bind us in any way either.

The point for me was more about the miracles all around us that we neglect to appreciate and upon reading that quote it reminded me of that so very well. I simply cut and pasted the quotation in it's entirety and didn't get stuck on the "G" word.

God himself culminates in the present moment, and will never be more divine in the lapse of all the ages.
- Henry David Thoreau, Walden: or, Life in the Woods
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Re: anyone ever tried meditation/mindfulness?
« Reply #309 on: January 06, 2014, 04:59:53 PM »
Whaaaat?? Are my eyes deceiving me? How are you? As doogle says, "Long live the thread."

Dare I ask, "Are you still meditating, or praying?"
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