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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2013, 02:32:16 PM »
my psyciatrist told me the same thing.he told me that i m not satisfy with my life.i can t deal that i m unemploy,that my family used to have money and now because of economical crice its not  the same,i cant go to live with my fiance because of money etc etc and its easier to me to believe that i have m.s in order to keep my mind there and not to my problems
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 02:48:26 PM »
It still doesn't make sense to me cause going through this is not easy, don't know why we would re-route the worry to something that makes us think we are going crazy.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 03:10:52 PM »
i couldn t even believe that our mind, in order to "protect"us from something that we can not deal with make us to fear about something else.it s really strange.i prefere to concern about job,money etc that to have the m.s fear with all those symptoms
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 03:13:39 PM »
It still doesn't make sense to me cause going through this is not easy, don't know why we would re-route the worry to something that makes us think we are going crazy.

it is amazing how capable we are of lying to ourselves.  remember, too, changing those things that are really bothering us is hard or uncomfortable or too life changing or horridly scary.  it is easier to have a disease and let a "doctor take care of everything"  It isn't really our job to fix the cancer or disease X.  it is the doctor's.  All we had to do is follow the instructions.

and while going through this isn't easy it is a known and for want of a better term comfortable.        addressing those uncomfy truths in our lives leave us open to a lot doubts, makes us emotionally vulnerable or maybe physically vulnerable....   it comes down to the devil you know (anxiety) and the devil you don't.....      That is what the "leap of faith/s is/are all about.
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MOST anxiety occurs on a subconscious level.  JUST because you don't feel consciously anxious or had a day or two of calm doesn't mean your mind & body are relaxed.  It can take months of reduced anxiety before a body goes back to a more non-reactive state

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 03:18:36 PM »
i couldn t even believe that our mind, in order to "protect"us from something that we can not deal with make us to fear about something else.it s really strange.i prefere to concern about job,money etc that to have the m.s fear with all those symptoms

why not? 

have you not heard of conversion disorder?  there is a link embedded in the link I posted to you a day or so ago.  Along with that is a link about "the mind body syndrome".  Along with the link to the 100+ symptoms of anxiety.

and besides using our health as a cover there is the TRUTH that the stress in our lives or the uncomfortable truths that we refuse to deal with STILL AFFECTS US PHYSICALLY WHETHER WE SEE IT OR NOT.  Whether we are consciously aware that our lives are stressful or not.  Our stresses still cause aches/pains..... 

as mentioned, once you can learn about anxiety, in general, and about yourself specifically and then start working on things, you get better.
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2013, 03:26:52 PM »
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It still doesn't make sense to me cause going through this is not easy, don't know why we would re-route the worry to something that makes us think we are going crazy.

It actually makes a lot of sense to me for similiar reasons to what six just said...she said:

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it is easier to have a disease and let a "doctor take care of everything"

I would take that a couple of steps further in the case of those obsessing over MS or ALS. Think about it....those two diseases can COMPLETELY debilitate you so that EVERYONE ELSE has to take care of EVERYTHING. Not just the doctor....EVERYONE has to be responsible for your well being.

Man, I just had a HUGE lightbulb go off about why I may be doing this. :sign0184:
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2013, 03:51:14 PM »
Thanks sixpack, I always love your insight.
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2013, 09:06:47 AM »
sixpack you are right.i m going for a walk to calm down because my leg is so wick today.i hope that this will heps
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2013, 12:41:41 PM »
i was wlking for an hour.i forgot my leg problem.when i came back it started again.LOL if i had m.s i couldn t walk non stop for an hour right????
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2013, 12:53:25 PM »
i was wlking for an hour.i forgot my leg problem.when i came back it started again.LOL if i had m.s i couldn t walk non stop for an hour right????

right.

it is just like my headache that came back after I was volunteering at a dog rescue last year...   I posted that to you when most of the text was bolded.
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MOST anxiety occurs on a subconscious level.  JUST because you don't feel consciously anxious or had a day or two of calm doesn't mean your mind & body are relaxed.  It can take months of reduced anxiety before a body goes back to a more non-reactive state

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