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Offline jediclampet

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gynophobia
« on: May 15, 2006, 08:17:45 PM »
I just discovered this discussion board.   I think it's great that people can come here to discuss their problems and get input from others.

Here is my story.  I am a 35 y/o male.  I have had a fear of attractive women since I can remember (i.e., since grade school when I first started noticing the opposite sex).  Actually, I think I am a little better now that I used to be.  Nowadays, I can usually carry on conversations with women I am attracted to but, when the time comes to "make a move" I either A) become paralyzed with fear or B) experience an intense emotional outburst during which I talk rapidly about stupid things, thereby scaring off the woman. 

I am not bragging but I know I am physically attractive. I am into bodybuilding and exercising.  Almost every time I go out in public I get intense eye contact from women, and frequent "accidental" brushes, etc.  Thus, I have had many opportunities to screw up with women.  I made a list of 12 occasions where I had screwed up "sure thing", and I know I am forgetting some other occasions. 

I have had a couple of relationships that started when the women made the first move.  I have also managed to make the first move a couple of times but this was with women that I was not very attracted to.  I have discovered that my anxiety is proportional to the extent to which I am attracted to the woman.

For a little background, I have not had a good relationship with my mother.  She was very critical of me and I always felt rejected by her (and I suppose rejection must be what I fear from the women I am attracted to).  I also feel some anxiety in normal social interactions (i.e. with men or with women I am not attracted to), but these situations are manageable.

I REALLY want to overcome this so that I can give myself a chance to have a meaningful relationship.  What can I do?       

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Re: gynophobia
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2006, 10:18:19 AM »
First thing you gotta realise is that it's normal for most people to have a level of the type of phobia you're talking about. You obviousely didn't take 'the leap' though and so it got worse and worse. Next thing is that, judging by your background, you are actually subconsciously looking for a partner who makes you feel rejected. Let me elaborate by asking you to take a test for me. This test is really good for anyone interested in finding out a little more about themselves in regards to relationships. It's based on a psychological theory that we subconsciously choose our partners based on a need to resolve our childhood issues.

(a) I want you to think of and list at least five (5) of the most outstanding bad traits about your childhood parent/guardian/s.
   
                        Think of describing words (adjectives) like Bossy, Jeolous, Controll freak, Unhappy etc.

(b) Now think of and list at least five (5) of your common emotional reactions to these traits. During hard times you felt:

                       i.e. Angry, Demotovated, insecure, inadequate etc.

(c) Ok, now list at least five (5) good traits about your parent/guardian/s:
 
                       i.e. Always happy, Confident, Intelligent, Loving, Fun, Emotionally stable, Caring etc.

(d) Think back to your happiest memories as a child, what were your emotional reactions? List at least five (5):

                       i.e. Free, Adequate, Confident.

(e) Now you need to think of the worst times and big arguments. What were your reactions? List at least five (5):

                       i.e. critisize, slam doors, take drugs, cry.


Alright, now get your answers from each question and apply them by letter (a,b,c,and d) to the result sheet as follows:

You are ending up with partners who are often A:
With whom you often feel B:
But you are only trying to make them C:
So you can begin to feel D:
But you sabotaged this by E:



I want to say one more thing in case you don't reply or i don't see your answer. It feels to you like your afraid, like most in your position (i've been there), of messing up or not being good enough. You begin to realise that it is the fear itself that is causing the trouble.. Somehow you still can't seem to avoid it. Everybody hides a part of themselves, the part your hiding itching is to come out - if you keep wasting time you'll die like that.. You need to learn how to be yourself and not what people want you to be - don't even try, just do - even if it's not really good. Screw 'em. Remember, if you don't say screw em you die having them screw you... What irony. Just be you, and look for a girl that suits you.. Even if that is a girl who like incessant blabber before sex!  ;)
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Re: gynophobia
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2006, 03:52:32 PM »
Thanks for the response the words of encouragement, anigma_d.

My list of "failures" with women now contains 32 different episodes.  In almost all of these cases, the "failure" was a failure to act, rather than acting but failing to suceed.  You are absolutely right that it is my fear of failure that is keeping me from acting and that I am afraid to let a woman see the entire, real me.  I think what I need to do is to persuade myself to let go of the outcome and just just count trying/acting as a victory.  A tangible plan in which I can give myself opportunites to "practice" might be tjhe way to go, no?  The problem is, I don't drink so I don't go out to bars/clubs - and I live in a city where I know practically noone.  I am not sure what is the best approach, but I am sure I can make it happen with a little thought.       

I took your test.  The problem is that the test assumes that I "end up with partners" but, the truth is that I end up alone.  There is some truth to the test based on the limited number of relationships I have had.   

Again, thanks for the help.  I am not giving up!
 
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Re: gynophobia
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 05:51:34 PM »
anigma d really put it out there for you!!!

Truth be known...you really need to appreciate yourself and think...the one who is going to matter, is the one who finds you cute in your fluster.  Trust me!!!  some girls find a man's fluster to be a great sign of interest...and will even find that part of him to be irrisistably sweet.

Dont worry to much...Keep trying and know that if she runs because you cant hold it together because your nervous... you just got rid of the wrong girl anyway!! :)

Best of luck to you :love: :love:
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