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Fear of Hell/ Fear of Going Crazy
« on: March 31, 2007, 12:36:52 PM »
Two of my worst fears at the moment. I'm afraid of Hell after death and if I'll end up there (even though I believe in and love jesus), and I'm afraid that anxiety will push me so far that I will be mentally incapable and will have to spend time in an institution. Anyone else feel like this?

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 03:56:59 PM »
I feel this way as well, especially about the fear of hell, even though I'm Christian as well.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 05:25:37 AM »
I am worried too.  I have not worried as much about it lately because I do feel like I am Christian.  But then these thoughts go through my head scaring me of God/Jesus sometimes and I panic about it and worry that it means I ama  abd person and haven't accepted him still.  It's the stupid anxiety messing me up as usual.  Just like with people I love, I have this anxiety got hrough telling me WHAT IF I don't feel the way I should.  And that alone makes me worry i am going crazy.  And what sucks is I CAN be very happy and not worry at all.  So it would be ridiculous if I let my life keep slipping away when I could be happy and I seem normal usually. 
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Re: Fear of Hell/ Fear of Going Crazy
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 07:17:54 AM »
I can relate.  My greatest fear is relapsing in the future so that I won't be able to leave my house again.  When this happens I have to reassure myself about how far I have come, and that I want to keep moving forward.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2007, 10:12:54 AM »
You know if you ask for forgiveness you wont go to Hell isnt that the way christianity works.  Isnt it all the non believers who are destined for hell?

Do you go to church or pray?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 06:23:48 AM »
If theya re like me, maybe they worry whether they ahve properly accepted Jesus?  I sometimes wonder have I done enough, does it actually take baptism to go to Heaven, etc...

I just read some of a book which scared me too because it was almosta cting as if you have to do everything perfectly, which obviously isn't true.  And it said that God does not tempt people, he only allows them to eb tempted.  But then the next chapter said people who think suffering comes from Satan are incorrect and that God causes the suffering and Christians should be happy he allows us to suffer.  This is all scary to me and makes it harder for me to feel peaceful religiously.  I did feel better from one part of it where it said God will getyou through everything in some way and that suffering does help in the long run (which I know firsthand based on past suffering I did, but I always am worried I willr each my limit and die from it).

I wish some Christian would talk to me privately if they don';t want to post about all of this because I am so confused and worried about a lot of things.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 04:44:09 PM »
As somone hovering among Christianity, Agnostiscism, and Secular Humanism (weird mix I know) this whole hell thing seems a little suspect to me. Almost like its the manifestation of our deepest darkest horrible fears, which in a way is based upon the anxiety we all naturally feel towards our own mortality.

but think of it this way; Why would an all knowing and all loving god allow his children to endure the most horrible situation imaginable for all of eternity? If you really need to accept Jesus into your hearts to go to heaven, then that means that in all likelyhood, only about a fifth (and that's being generous) of all souls on earth will end up in heaven with the rest burning in agony. And since god is all-knowing, he knows everything that has heppened, will happen, and is going to happen, then he knows how many souls he is ultimatley giveing to satan. So in that aspect, one can argue that god would be feeding evil, and encouraging hell's growth with the addition of souls, knowing full well in his perfectness what he is doing. Then we have good feeding evil, and working in cooperation with it. I mean, I'm not going to worry about it. I am the way I am becuase god made me that way...

if I burn in hell because of who gad made me... then maybe god's not such a nice guy after all.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 02:26:12 AM »
Two of my worst fears at the moment. I'm afraid of Hell after death and if I'll end up there (even though I believe in and love jesus), and I'm afraid that anxiety will push me so far that I will be mentally incapable and will have to spend time in an institution. Anyone else feel like this?

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Yes, Yes, Yes, to the "afraid that anxiety will push me so far that  I will be mentally incapable and will have to spend time in an institution"     EXACTLY the way you wrote it, is how I feel a lot. I get the depersonalization really bad some days and that's when I feel like I could go absolutely crazy, like I could explode(not really, but it feels like it), I'm 37, but I think I'll just "poof" get alzheimers today and stay that way since my anxiety is driving me further from any real and true cognition in my brain.........wow, I dont feel so alone, thanks for your post!     
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 12:31:36 AM »
I was like you. I wondered if I ever "properly" accepted Jesus, I worried constantly about eternal damnation, and stuff like that.

My solution? In college I learned a lot about science and history that heavily discredited Christianity and now I am an atheist. Fear of hell is no longer a problem for me.

I recommend dumping christianity altogether to be honest, it's a lot of dead weight on your shoulders in guilt for stuff you shouldn't feel guilty about. I have become so much happier and more relaxed since I dropped the restraints of religion.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2007, 11:14:45 PM »
hey  coover , all it takes to get to heaven is to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. it s not just pray  this ,or say that ,or go to church on ester and Christmas. you could never step foot in a church and go to heaven, it all comes down to whether he knows you....ya i know that sounds weird ,asking if the all knowing God knows you. having a personal relationship means pray to him , as well as just talking to him. tell him how you feel the way you go to a friend to talk is the way you can go to him. as you grow closer to him you begin to realize nothing in this word really matters but God and family.

 SilentHoveringOrb ,

one i believe there is a hell,why? because God, and Jesus say there is one. why would he do such a thing? why would people choose to think a perfect and holy God would lie about such a thing and take that risk? God gave us a choise,you can ask forgiveness for you sins,and ask him to be your lord and savior,or  you can not. he,s made it clear people who follow after the world will be thrown in to the lake of fire. we have a choice if we didn't we would be nothing more than robots. and you right that a good majority will go there, but that's what they have choosen,they would rather get drunk,and sleep around and do drugs. any one can go to heaven if that's what is really the most important thing to them.
I myself have a tendency to follow false gods,and that's any thing that comes before God, it can be money ,cars,a shoe even. I tend find my self saying if i just had that car, or that body,or that job life would be better. fact is it would still be empty,if I were dieing right now how much is that stuff really going to mean to me.wouldnt mean any thing. it a object ,as Jesus said store your trueas's in heaven, meaning lead the people you love to Jesus, and any one else that will listen.

I believe many people think evolution is true whether the evidence is there or not, they like the idea there's know God because it allows them to do the things they do and feel nothing.  while others have never heard of creation.


I am in no way am trying to jump on any one for what any one believes if you searched through things and decided you believe you came from a monkey ,so be it. i guess just ask your self if its worth dying for what you believe. I would be happy to point any one interested to some really good videos you can down load for free.
it,s not preaching stuff , but showing how the bible i s right through science and humor. it's what really helped me with the doubt i use to feel.   

there series is called creation ,science ,and evolution. theres 7 videos ,they take a wile to down load there like 2 hours each, they have one on dinosaurs that's really cool. so if any one wants to know where they can get them email me , or send me a message.

I ll be more than happy to try and answer any questions ,or point you in the right direction.

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2007, 12:57:19 PM »
Wow, YES YES YES! Just yesterday, last night, I felt like a full-blown panic was coming as I was dwelling about the utter cruelty of Hell. I have to say, it's one of the reasons why I stopped believing in 'orthodox Christianity'. I can't bear the thought of anyone, or any lifeform, having to endure an eternity of torment. Robert Green Ingersoll wrote that this doctrine is worse than any evil any human could commit. I would be more than happy to discuss this privately with you, but as mentioned, I may have different beliefs than you do presently. I'm not saying I disbelieve, but I'm very agnostic. And the utter terror and feeling of helplessnes that the concept of Hell has caused for people is horrible.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 12:56:21 PM »
Mr. Sniffles,

Who are you to point anyone in the 'right direction'?

You are a human and failable just like everyone else. Thus, you are just as lost as EVERYONE. Hell, even mother thereasa questioned her faith, and lamented at her perception of god's absence. To actually believe yourself ato be all knowing of the complete inner-machenations of our universe is a little insane to say the least.

I know in your mind, the love and power of Christ is awesome for you, and I'm happy you feel happy about how you choose to view youself in relation to the world.... But just remember, just because you believe somthing is real, doesn't mean it actually exists.

As an addendum, I just wanted to say that if you do good out of fear of hell, and the desire to be 'accepted' by jesus then you are doing good for a selfish reason. What ever happened to being good for goodness' sake? Be good to eachother out of love and respect, not because deep down you really only care about yourself and your own eternal salvation.

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 01:38:04 PM »
Yeah. I agree with Isaac B. Singer. The concept of God is so far removed from us mortals, that anyone can hang their agendas and ideologies on Him/Her. It's surely best to remain humble here. Also, Miguel de Unumuno experienced acute doubt in his mind, yet his heart thirsted for immortality. Or Kierkegaard, who wrote about how genuine faith can only come through heartbreaking doubt.

I agree with SilentHoveringOrb - to do good for others for the sake of ourselves is surely a sordid motive. Though we may never reach the purity of complete selflessness, let's at least make the effort to love others for the sake of them being Other.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 01:58:02 PM »
Mr Sniffles. I respect your ideas about Jesus, but I have to say I'm a bit concerned about your view of evolution. There is no reason to make derogatory statements about 'descending from monkeys'. Many mammals display human-like affections towards their own families and offspring. Have you ever heard of the experiment mentioned in Carl Sagan's book about rhesus monkeys refusing to eat food so that their fellows wouldn't be electrically shocked? Many of them were willing to starve rather than see their own kind suffer. Should I point out the obvious to you? That they have never attended a Sunday School class?

It seems to me a large part of the problem today with anti-evolutionists is their disdain for animals. But animals are not evil, they struggle for survival just like we humans do. We are 98 percent or so genetically identical to chimpanzees and bonobos. Are we really to believe that we are in no way animals ourselves?
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2007, 02:57:30 PM »
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Who are you to point anyone in the 'right direction'?
First off what I wrote had nothing to do with you , it was directed at people who believe , but are struggling in faith. , but need encouragement.  who am not to point some one in the right direction if it  helps bring some one closer to GOD?? If you have ever read some much as a few verses in the bible, its all about bringing people to GOD!!, BY point in the right direction is to help some one find the answer to their question. notice i said i would try , as in if I confidently believe i Know what the bible says on it. if not, I would find some who does to help get the answer to their question. Is not this forum for pointing people in the right direction to find the help they need , what ever there problems maybe? should we all ask who we are to think we can help others yet we sit in the same boat with problems of our own?

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You are a human and fallible just like everyone else. Thus, you are just as lost as EVERYONE. Hell, even mother thereasa questioned her faith, and lamented at her perception of god's absence. To actually believe yourself ato be all knowing of the complete inner-machenations of our universe is a little insane to say the least.

You just said it, we are all failable, but if i am wrong no big deal I never Know, I ll be dead never knowing I was wrong ....how bout you?? after all "To actually believe yourself ato be all knowing of the complete inner-machenations of our universe is a little insane to say the least". RIGHT??   You bet there are days I wake up and dont feel saved , Its called spiritual warfare! EVERY ONE who believe goes through it. Go up to any pastor and ask if they ever have a douts, if there telling the truth they will say yes.

by the way if there is no GOD there is no such thing as lost ,nor such a thing as sin, or evil, or a right or wrong! which would mean we have no GOD given rights, your know  like the right to breath, own land, have children. Government would take care that right?  They dont like hearing about GOD given rights if it gets in the way of there plans.

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I know in your mind, the love and power of Christ is awesome for you, and I'm happy you feel happy about how you choose to view youself in relation to the world.... But just remember, just because you believe something is real, doesn't mean it actually exists.
And just remember that because you choose to  believe some thing doesn't exist  doesn't make it nonexistent. I cant prove GOD , you cant not prove him. Pick what ever side you will
as i have chosen mine :yes:

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As an addendum, I just wanted to say that if you do good out of fear of hell, and the desire to be 'accepted' by jesus then you are doing good for a selfish reason. What ever happened to being good for goodness' sake? Be good to eachother out of love and respect, not because deep down you really only care about yourself and your own eternal salvation.

Funny thing about that. nowhere in the bible does it say you go to heaven for being good. It might help to know what you speak of before jumping on my back. David had many wives, killed one of the ladies husbands so he could have her, yet JESUS called him a man after GODS own heart. Moses was a murderer. So ,you are dead wrong in you statement.
look through the bible and read for your self if you want . If you are living the kind of life GOD has called us to live than there should be no fear of hell, you only fear if you are knowingly doing some thing wrong, in which case give it to GOD , simple as that.GOD judges us by our heart, you can act as nice as you want , but its whats on the inside that GOD cares about.


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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2007, 03:51:05 PM »
Mr. Sniffles,

You are right, I probably should read the bible before I enter into a spirited debate (no pun intended  :spineyes:)

However, from my knowledge of history and chrisitanity as a faith, what I have learned is that alot of chrisitians from various denominations will often interperet the bible in different ways. Thus, The bible can be understood and interpreted on infinite levels. The same passage will most often have different meanings depending on what a person WANTS to hear not what he SHOULD hear.

In addition, the bible has been re-written by popes, kings, and other folk desiring to control the thoughts of billions of people for close to 2,000 years. Close to 5,000 if you include the Jeudaic stories of the Old testimate, infact entire sections of scripture have for  whatever reason been omitted by people who would like to alter people's perceptions of reality? How accurate is that from the original message? Probably not very.

If you insist that the bible says that you don't need to be good, then its not something you should be reading infact, it seems that that notion right there would be categorically contrapostive to the actual teachings of Christ, as well as the commandments relayed to people by god through Moses.

Once again, I'm glad you have found peace of mind, but it just seems to me, the more people beleive in their religions, the worse off we all become.

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2007, 05:14:24 PM »
Mr Sniffles. I respect your ideas about Jesus, but I have to say I'm a bit concerned about your view of evolution. There is no reason to make derogatory statements about 'descending from monkeys'. Many mammals display human-like affections towards their own families and offspring. Have you ever heard of the experiment mentioned in Carl Sagan's book about rhesus monkeys refusing to eat food so that their fellows wouldn't be electrically shocked? Many of them were willing to starve rather than see their own kind suffer. Should I point out the obvious to you? That they have never attended a Sunday School class?
I make no apologies for my belief, as i am sure you dont. I believe the bible word for word till proven wrong, which it never has been.
Simple question, where did we come from? I believe evolution is a religion , you cant prove one kind of animal has ever given birth to a completely new kind of animal, you cant prove a big bang, you cant prove the earth is millions of years old, you cant prove that life came from a non living object. you have to believe by faith, the same faith i use to believe in JESUS.    evolution THEROY! how can a thery be defended as fact. you cant prove evolution , i cant prove the existence of GOD, I just know how he has worked in my life. .

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It seems to me a large part of the problem today with anti-evolutionists is their disdain for animals. But animals are not evil, they struggle for survival just like we humans do. We are 98 percent or so genetically identical to chimpanzees and bonobos. Are we really to believe that we are in no way animals ourselves?

Indeed, various kinds of animals and plants were created individually, not just humans.  Plants were to produce seed ‘after their kind’ meaning that bean plants were to produce bean seeds; and cattle would give birth to cattle, etc. (Gen. 1:11,12,21,24,25).  So there is no hint in Scripture of any kind of an evolutionary process where one kind of organism would change into another kind.

Evolutionists believe not only that mankind evolved from an ape-like creature, but that ultimately everything evolved from a single-celled organism which happened to arise from non-living matter.  They claim that the similarities between living things are proof that they evolved from common ancestors.  They cite such things as the similarity between human and chimp DNA, similarities between embryos, claimed vestigial organs, and claimed transitional fossils between different kinds—such as supposed ape-men.

The idea that human beings and chimps have close to 100% similarity in their DNA is often claimed to prove that humans evolved from apes.  The figures quoted vary: 97%, 98%, or even 99% similarity, depending on who is telling the story.

Firstly, similarity is not necessarily evidence for common ancestry but may be due to a common designer.  Think about the original Porsche and a Volkswagen ‘Beetle’ cars.  They both had air-cooled, flat, horizontally-opposed, 4-cylinder engines in the rear, independent rear suspension, two doors, boot (trunk) in the front, and many other similarities.  Why did these two very different cars have so many similarities?  Because they had the same designer!  Whether similarity is morphological (shape, form) or biochemical is of no consequence to the lack of logic in this argument for evolution.

If humans were entirely different to all other living things, or indeed every living thing was entirely different, would this reveal the Creator to us?  No! We could logically think that there must have been many creators rather than one.  The unity of the creation is testimony to the One True God who made it all (Romans 1:20).

If humans were entirely different to all other living things, then what would we eat?  If we are to eat food to gain nutrients and energy to live, what would we eat if every other organism on Earth were fundamentally different biochemically?  How could we digest them and how could we use the amino acids, sugars, etc., if they were different from the ones we have in our bodies?  Biochemical similarity is necessary for us to eat!  Even in an unfallen world where animals and people ate only plants, if animals and humans did not share similar biochemistry, there would have to be separate plant kingdoms for animals and humans to eat.

If the evolutionary story about the origin of living things were true there should be millions of fossils showing the transitions from one kind of organism to another.  After all, they say there have been hundreds of millions of years of mutations and natural selection, and the rock layers recorded this ‘natural history’ as fossils.  Yet there are precious few, and even evolutionists cannot agree on their significance.  Claimed evidence of fossils linking different kinds of organisms does not stand scrutiny.34   

The lack of transitional fossils even drove evolutionists to propose a new mode of evolution in the late 1970s so they could go on believing in evolution without the need to find transitional fossils.  This idea—punctuated equilibrium—basically says that the evolutionary changes occurred so quickly, geologically speaking, that no fossils were preserved to show them


The supposed evidence for evolution does not withstand critical examination.36  The evidence is better understood in the context of God creating different basic kinds of organisms.  These were capable of adapting to different environments by sorting the original created genetic information (re-shuffled by sexual reproduction), via natural selection.  Some variation has been generated by mutations, but these are degenerate changes involving loss of genetic information, or at best horizontal changes where information is not lost or gained.

The probability of natural processes generating new genetic information is so low that evolution could not possibly account for the origin of the vast amounts of complex coded information in living things.37  Creation is the explanation consistent with the evidence.


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Re: Fear of Hell/ Fear of Going Crazy
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2007, 06:02:31 PM »
Hey All,

This discussion was started to answer a simple question of how does one deal with intrusive thoughts of hell and potentially loosing ones mind.  These are both real fears that many people with anxiety disorder deal with on a daily basis.  I don't think a religious discussion or dispute is really relevant to the subject, so please stay on topic and keep religious debate to the PM's as it is a very personal topic of discussion for many of us.

Thanks,
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2007, 06:45:09 PM »
sorry  ocdengineer ,and to anyone we have bothered


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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2007, 06:54:05 PM »
No problem at all.  I have gotten caught up in the same debate on numerous occasions.  LOL.  It isn't something that will be solved here. 

I hope you all feel free to address the original question though.  Also, use the PM's!  They are there for off-board discussion and would be a very good place for this discussion to continue.  I also wouldn't have a problem if you guys had a live chat on the topic.

You guys take care,
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2007, 08:52:13 AM »
"For God does not bestow the spirit of fear, but of love, power and the cleanliness of a sound mind"
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