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Offline arijones1

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Re: Hope and help for your nerves
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2009, 12:31:18 AM »
i tried accepting tonight, my heart was beating hard, and i let it, it was odd, it beat faster when i let go, then when i was tensing my muscles, and body.
it felt good to let for, even if only for a little while
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Re: Hope and help for your nerves
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2009, 12:58:12 AM »
Hi Aj

 Thats the way just let it pass The out come weather you react or not is the same
but by not reacting you are showing your brain who the boss is. It will get the point sooner or later

cheers kev  :action-smiley-065:
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2009, 01:42:54 AM »
Pan, that really was a pretty great analogy to explain the 'cure' for panic
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2009, 04:27:03 PM »
Wonderful explanations by Pan there.  Great stuff.  Everyone should read that and read it again.  The path to recovery is right there in those words.  Do not doubt that.


Also wanted to add a few more things.  Remember that when a moment of panic strikes it has a lifespan to it.  Panic attacks don't last for hours.  They often last for minutes.  Just general panic works exactly the same, and this is because panic is essentially the physical manifestation of fear and adrenaline.  Without both, no panic would exist. 

So when panic strikes, Claire Weekes says you should "float" through that panic, and remind yourself that it will very quickly pass.  This is part of "observing" that Pan described.  Remember how short panic sticks around, and this will bring it's ending even quicker.  Panic seems so important when it strikes, but you must remember how briefly it lingers.  The more you begin to think that way, the more you'll see how much less you fear it.  It's a very temporary state more often than not.  Of course if you allow it to get really out of control, you'll feel very on edge for days or weeks, but the genuine panic is always short lived, because it's always controlled by the direct release of adrenaline.
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Re: Hope and help for your nerves
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2009, 05:00:12 PM »
Hi bear

 Hope you are doing well  :action-smiley-065:

 I agree with all that is on this thread but i have been reading something and i did not released i had did this

 Now i agree with Dr Weekes but the one thing i dont is the floating . Why because by floating and accepting your anxiety you are not facing it . It is this facing it , sitting their and saying BRING IT ON , IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO . Once you can say this and mean it 100% then the panic starts to go, it will die because you will not be feeding it .

 I dont know about you but this is what i did , one day i had just had enough and just said to it . Right you want me come and get me but i will be buggered if i am going to live in fear of you anymore now get back in your box and behave yourself. Well it came and i stood my ground and it was bluffed, just like it had bluffed me , now the tables were turning  and it did not know what to do , it had giving its all. Now  since this time is has bitten at the heals like the cowardly dog it is every once in a while but it has never tried to push its luck.

 So the floating is good but without that bring it on you are really only excepting it and you sit waiting for the next time , but by floating and tell it to do its worst and walking out the other side you have proved to yourself you are stronger . So even when it comes back again you now have your confidence back that you can handle it , and by comforting it , it learns to behave itself and that it needs to behvae itself.

 I have always believe that the loss of your self confidence with anxiety plays a big part and breeds the I CANTS . I think these i cants are more important than the what ifs.

Many people believe they cant do this , but that is the key believe they cant and the fear has built to high for the to think they can . By this one step i belive it will change your fear towards it.

Anyway just my thoughts

cheers and wish you well as always kev  :action-smiley-065:
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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2009, 10:01:34 AM »
i think seeing anxiety/panic from a certain point as a chance to practice what we learned is also a good thing..
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Re: Hope and help for your nerves
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2009, 04:18:35 PM »
Well that's what CBT is, isn't it?  You learn to face your fears and practice doing it over and over until it no longer makes you anxious.  Dr. Weekes says to "float through" your fear and panic, but she also says you must face it.  She has a whole section on agoraphobia and how the people that suffer from it need to get out and face their fears, it's just that instead of fleeing from the situation, she asks that you try to float through the panic/anxiety and stay in the moment. 
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